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Newsflash Update on Firearm Amnesty 2018

Dear Member, SAGA Trustees, Bruce Shaw and Damian Enslin, as well as SAGA representative Ludwig Churr, attended the Portfolio Committee on Police (PCoP) meeting at Parliament on 15th November 2017. SAPS / CFR headed by Major General Bothma, presented an amended briefing to the PCoP in an attempt to answer queries from the committee on the previous presentation. A copy of this full briefing is available on SAGA’s website. Although some of the members of the PCoP still had some valid concerns about the Amnesty, the PCoP will vote next week, Wednesday 22nd November 2017, on whether to accept the Amnesty or not. SAGA will keep you updated about the Amnesty in a follow up Newsflash.

SAPS PRESENTATION 15 Nov 2017
SAPS PRESENTATION 15 Nov 2017
SAPS Presentation 15 Nov 2017.pdf (12.41MB)
SAPS PRESENTATION 15 Nov 2017
SAPS PRESENTATION 15 Nov 2017
SAPS Presentation 15 Nov 2017.pdf (12.41MB)

Britain Is Bleeding: Violent Crime Rises In England Despite Gun Control

by David Burnett - Friday, October 27, 2017

 New numbers released by England’s Office for National Statistics are exposing the fallacy of gun control and crime reduction “across the pond.”

 The country, which has tightly restricted gun ownership since 1996, has seen double-digit rises in criminal activity across the board in 2017, including a 26 percent rise in knife crime (the highest since 2011), 27 percent rise in firearm crimes and 19 percent rise in overall violent crime.

According to the Evening Standard, the city of London has seen a 47 percent rise in knife crimes, including “214 killings, 391 attempted murders, 438 rapes, 182 other sexual assaults, and 14,429 robberies. There were also more than 18,500 assaults involving an injury or intent to inflict harm with a blade and 2,816 threats to kill with a knife.”

 According to The Telegraph, latest figures confirm London is more dangerous than New York, noting New York and London have similar populations (about 8 million), but in London burglary is six times more likely, rape is three times more likely, and the risk of being robbed is 50 percent higher.

The causes remain uncertain, although The New York Times blamed hate crimes, terrorism and Brexit.

 The Guardian reports that police staffing has fallen steadily in the last eight years and are now at their lowest levels since 1985. Of those that remain, more than 90 percent are unarmed in London. Metropolitan Police announced earlier this month that, due to budget cuts, they would stop investigating “lower-level” offenses such as theft, burglary and assault. As the NRA reported earlier this year, support for arming British police has steadily risen, yet despite prominent terror attacks in 2017, no changes have been proposed.

 The country, which has tightly restricted gun ownership since numbers 1996, has seen double-digit rises in criminal activity across the board in 2017 …

 There’s no estimates on how much armed civilians would reduce crime: The very suggestion is met with sharp criticism, while Britain’s self-defense laws are notoriously strict and geared towards protecting attackers. There are more than 1.3 million shotguns and more than a half­million other types of firearms in the United Kingdom.

 A report earlier this year from The Guardian betrays an even darker secret: Crime may always have been this bad, and the National Office is only just now adjusting its methods to record it properly. For example, the homicide numbers reflect nearly a hundred manslaughter cases from 1989 only now showing up on the register.

 “The Office for National Statistics is clear that much of the rise in violent offenses recorded by police is down to better recording by forces but also believes some of the increases may be genuine and clearly there is more we must do to tackle the violent crimes which blight communities,” the Home Office minister told The Guardian.

 In other words, in seeking to mitigate fears of a statistical crime wave that may owe partially to better documentation, authorities are admitting the criminal activity may always have been there, and official records are only now catching up. This may be supported by the ONS Crime Survey for England and Wales, which polls civilians rather than law enforcement about existing crime. The civilian survey shows no increase in self-reported crime in the past year. (Civilian surveys are of course unable to reflect certain crimes such as murder.)

There’s no evidence to suggest what works for one culture and country would work for another. But increasingly, the evidence doesn’t indicate gun control is working for the United Kingdom. Given the rise in acid attacks in England and Wales, which has led to a new movement for acid control, it’s clear that making laws a.ecting the supply of weapons does not curb the demand for violence.

Crime measurements aren’t always complete, and are more complicated than any one issue. However, for gun control advocates who point to European societies for gun control, the argument is becoming increasingly ineffective, if not downright embarrassing.

 David Burnett is a critical care registered nurse based in Lexington, Ky., the former president of Students for Concealed Carry, and a frequent contributor to A1F Daily.

 https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/articles/2017/10/27/britain-is-bleeding-violent-crime-rises-in-england-despite-gun-control/

Britain Is Bleeding: Violent Crime Rises In England Despite Gun Control
Britain Is Bleeding: Violent Crime Rises In England Despite Gun Control
America's 1st Freedom Britain Is Bleeding_ Violent Crime Rises In England Desp.pdf (162.61KB)
Britain Is Bleeding: Violent Crime Rises In England Despite Gun Control
Britain Is Bleeding: Violent Crime Rises In England Despite Gun Control
America's 1st Freedom Britain Is Bleeding_ Violent Crime Rises In England Desp.pdf (162.61KB)

13/11/2017    SAGA NEWSFLASH

ARMS AND AMMUNITION ACT 75 OF 1969 - REPLACEMENT GREEN LICENCE CARDS

Dear Member,

SAGA has been in touch with Major General Bothma concerning green licence cards issued in terms of the previous Arms and Ammunition Act 75 of 1969, specifically with respect to replacement of lost,  stolen or damaged licence cards.  

Major General Bothma advised SAGA that it is possible to apply for a replacement card for licences issued in terms of the old Arms and Ammunition Act 75 of 1969. Anyone who wishes to apply for replacement licence cards must use the SAPS273 form and may apply to their DFO accordingly.  

The SAPS273 form is available on our website.

FIREARM AMNESTY 2018
FIREARM AMNESTY 2018
SAGA Release Firearm Amnesty 2018(1).pdf (111.56KB)
FIREARM AMNESTY 2018
FIREARM AMNESTY 2018
SAGA Release Firearm Amnesty 2018(1).pdf (111.56KB)


10 November 2017

 

FIREARM AMNESTY 2018

On 8 November 2017, SAGA trustee Damian Enslin, attended the Portfolio Committee for Police meeting at Parliament with respect to the proposed Firearm Amnesty 2018.

The police were represented by a number of Generals, including Major General Bothma, who presented the conditions of the Amnesty as well as the structure and process of the Amnesty. A copy of this presentation is available on our website.

The Portfolio Committee were deeply concerned about the rationale behind the Amnesty as a number of committee members felt there was no point in the amnesty, if the main criteria was the removal of illegal firearms from criminal hands.

A number of questions were posed to Major General Bothma and the police concerning the previous Amnesty – whether any crimes had been solved or, if firearms that were previously handed in, had been linked to any crimes at all. Major General Bothma was unable to give any data concerning this and advised Parliament that he would revert with data in due course.

Further concerns raised by the Committee was with respect to the safekeeping and transportation of firearms. The Committee was deeply troubled by the fact that some police stations had recently lost a number of firearms and that possibly thousands of firearms have been lost by the police in recent times.

The Committee was also concerned about the vetting of the officers that would be involved in this process, from the police station all the way to destruction of the firearms. They wanted to know how these persons were to be vetted and when this would take place.

The notice that the police brought to Parliament was defective as it had the incorrect dates and as a result the police will have to return to Parliament on Wednesday, 15 th November 2017 to submit the proper notice which we expect will then be endorsed by the Committee.

SAGA was permitted to address the Committee concerning the Amnesty and raised the fact that SAPS have not conferred with stakeholders concerning the Amnesty process and conditions. We further noted that SAGA members, as well as general society, were deeply concerned about surrendering their firearms to the police considering the recent loss and theft of firearms, and gross negligence with respect to firearms held in police custody.

The Firearm Amnesty is planned to be in effect from 1 st February 2018 for a period of six months. SAGA will study the Amnesty conditions and terms in detail and advise further in due course.

With respect to the court case regarding late renewal of firearm licences, we wish to remind our members that the Minister of Police appealed Judge Tolmay’s Judgement of 4 th July 2017 and this Appeal has been set down for hearing in the Constitutional Court on the 8 th February 2018. SAGA will keep you updated regarding these important issues.

BACK TO BASICS
BACK TO BASICS
Back to Basics.pdf (5.74MB)
BACK TO BASICS
BACK TO BASICS
Back to Basics.pdf (5.74MB)

SAGA Parliament Feedback - September 2017

Dear Member,

On 1 September the Parliamentary Portfolio Committee on Police met to receive a presentation by senior management of SAPS regarding the progress of and improvement on service delivery at the Central Firearms Registry (CFR). SAGA was, amongst others, also invited to make a presentation. John Welch, Bruce Shaw and Damian Enslin represented SAGA and John Welch gave the presentation, which will soon be accessible on the SAGA website.

The SAPS presentation tried to portrait a rosy image of the CFR’s achievements over the last two years, however, neither the politicians nor the representatives of the firearms community accepted that without reservation. In fact, the perception of the firearms community of the performance of the CFR is rather dismal.

Francois Beukman (ANC), the chairman of the Portfolio Committee, was rather upset, if not annoyed, by the apparent lack of control by SAPS over their own firearms. He specifically referred to the theft of firearms from the police’s logistical stores in Silverton which were allegedly sold to gangsters in the Western Cape (the case where former Col. Chris Prinsloo has been convicted and sentenced and where two other accused are still to be tried), and also the theft of firearms from various police stations. He further stated that because of corruption, members dealing with firearm-related matters ought to be vetted and he was rather perturbed when the numbers of those who were vetted and those who still have not been, could not be provided. SAGA has previously pointed out that the anti-gun lobby found it convenient to attribute theft from and losses by licensed owners as the main source to the illicit pool of firearms, whereas those stolen from the SAPS, SANDF and other state departments, possibly contribute much more to this pool. 

John Welch reiterated that, despite the importance of stakeholder meetings (to discuss and resolve matters), the police have since 2015 not convened any such meetings (with the exception of meeting with NAACCSA). Had these meetings taken place the litigation between various stakeholders and SAPS could possibly have been avoided. Further, no efforts have been made by SAPS to find a solution for licensees’ failure to timeously renew their licenses, excepting to say that they must apply in time (not less than 90 days before the expiry of the license) and if they do not, they will be arrested and charged and their firearms confiscated. Since police officials from different provinces and police stations seem to interpret some provisions of the law differently, these various interpretations could also have been discussed with a view to ensuring universal interpretation and application.

Emphasis was also put on the SAPS’ failure to have implemented the on-line e-filing system for dealers and other applicants, even though it was promised before the Firearms Control Act had come into operation. In fact, at the time it was said that the on-line system would ensure expeditious processing of applications and a serious reduction in paper-work. The stacks of files in the offices and corridors of the CFR building in Pretoria contributed to the dismay of the members of the Portfolio Committee.

Since SAGA was first to propose the licensing of the person and the mere registration of firearms (way back in 1985 already), John Welch used the opportunity to raise it again, and since it found favour with all the stakeholders, the Chairman asked the Civilian Secretariat of Police whether they had considered including it in the Amendment Bill. According to the Secretary they had, however, it remains to be seen whether the Secretariat’s understanding of the matter is the same as SAGA’s.  

SAGA specifically pointed out that the amendments to the Firearms Control Act (which were discussed in Parliament in March 2015 and promised to be ready before the end of that year) are still not ready and seem to be cloaked in secrecy. Important, but less controversial issues, such as the provision of a period of grace (albeit with the payment of an administrative penalty) following the expiry of a license, or if the application for the renewal of the license is not made more than 90 days before the expiry of the license, could easily have been made in the legislation. Since SAGA regards matters pertaining to the micro-dotting and ballistic testing of private firearms as unacceptable, unsafe, unreasonable and not financially viable, these could have stood over for future discussions.

The representative of a stakeholder proposed that firearm licensing ought perhaps to be divorced from the police and placed with the Secretariat (or another independent body) with civilian oversight. Although SAGA does not believe that the Secretariat is the correct location, it will consider all reasonable proposals in this regard and in conjunction with all stakeholders try and find the best solution in the interest of all licensed firearm owners.

In the meantime we remind all firearm owners of their responsibility to apply for the renewal of licenses not less than 90 days before the expiry of such licenses.  

Free, responsible and lawful firearm owners contribute to a safe society.

SAGA PARLIAMENTARY REPORT BACK
SAGA Parliament Report Back.doc (24KB)
SAGA PARLIAMENTARY REPORT BACK
SAGA Parliament Report Back.doc (24KB)
SAGA PARLIAMENTARY PRESENTATION
SAGA PARLIAMENTARY PRESENTATION
SAGA Presentation 1 Sep 2017.ppt (143.5KB)
SAGA PARLIAMENTARY PRESENTATION
SAGA PARLIAMENTARY PRESENTATION
SAGA Presentation 1 Sep 2017.ppt (143.5KB)
Minister-of-Safety-and-Security-Notice-of-Appeal-July-2017
Minister-of-Safety-and-Security-Notice-of-Appeal-July-2017
Minister-of-Safety-and-Security-Notice-of-Appeal-July-2017.pdf (1.33MB)
Minister-of-Safety-and-Security-Notice-of-Appeal-July-2017
Minister-of-Safety-and-Security-Notice-of-Appeal-July-2017
Minister-of-Safety-and-Security-Notice-of-Appeal-July-2017.pdf (1.33MB)
SAGA Newsflash concerning Expired Firearms Licences
SAGA Newsflash concerning Expired Firearms Licences
SAGA Newsflash concerning Expired Firearms Licences.pdf (65.29KB)
SAGA Newsflash concerning Expired Firearms Licences
SAGA Newsflash concerning Expired Firearms Licences
SAGA Newsflash concerning Expired Firearms Licences.pdf (65.29KB)


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